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curiousgeorge Basic Member

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0. Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: DDR for Older People? |
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I work for a physical therapist who mentioned that DDR might be helpful in rehabbing older patients, but he found that most of the music (techno/hiphop) wasn't right for his purposes.
My question is, is there other types of music available? Something softer that might appeal to older people, or even line dancing type stuff?
I'm not looking for illeagal downloads. Just wondering what other options there might be. |
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1. Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nah, what you've heard is pretty much all there is. _________________
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curiousgeorge Basic Member

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2. Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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That's too bad, but thanks for responding.
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3. Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Older players tend to most enjoy the songs from DDR that most players can't stand. My mom, for example, loves I'm For Real. Overall, I think DDRMAX is your best bet if you want an older person-friendly DDR since there's a large selection of calmer, more laid-back songs to choose from. _________________
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5. Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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#Infinity wrote: | Overall, I think DDRMAX is your best bet if you want an older person-friendly DDR since there's a large selection of calmer, more laid-back songs to choose from. |
I have to strongly disagree with this recommendation. DDRMAX features no Beginner difficulty and plenty of songs which are quite difficult even on the easiest available difficulty. There are only five songs (out of 71) rated 1/10 for difficulty in the game, two of which are locked by default. It is, in my experience, the most beginning-unfriendly PS2 DDR game available. _________________
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#Infinity Trick Member

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6. Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's too bad there's no Beginner's mode, but there are at least a few songs that they can learn off of (i.e., Remember You Light) before trying out the more difficult songs, so it's not too big of a deal so long as they can locate the 1-footers (and with enough practice, it shouldn't take too long to make it to 2 and 3-footers). Overall, I still think it's the best. None of the other PS2 installments imo feature songlists anywhere close to decent for an older audience (Extreme and SuperNova are okay in one sense because they both feature a few oldies such as Y.M.C.A. and Let's Dance, but otherwise nah). _________________
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7. Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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It's good that it lacks beginner mode, because when they complained it was too hard we'd get a chance to say "Well when I was a kid Light was all we had. It wasn't even called light, back then we called it Basic. And we were happy just to have DDR" _________________
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8. Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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We need to keep in mind, however, that not only are these potential players older than typical DDR players, they are also in physical rehabilitation, meaning their physical capabilities are in some way diminished. I fully agree that the only way to learn the game is to play Basic and beyond, and most players decide Beginner is too easy on their own, but these people aren't getting into the game to improve in that way; they're being introduced to it in an attempt to get them moving again.
Then again, who knows, it might be a real hit.
I suppose the bottom line is, most of the games, at least post-EXTREME, do try to include some songs from older decades, and other relaxed songs in order to maintain a diverse selection, but the majority of most song lists are typical DDR fare: club and dance music. _________________
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9. Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Arctic Wolves wrote: | #Infinity wrote: | Overall, I think DDRMAX is your best bet if you want an older person-friendly DDR since there's a large selection of calmer, more laid-back songs to choose from. |
I have to strongly disagree with this recommendation. DDRMAX features no Beginner difficulty and plenty of songs which are quite difficult even on the easiest available difficulty. There are only five songs (out of 71) rated 1/10 for difficulty in the game, two of which are locked by default. It is, in my experience, the most beginning-unfriendly PS2 DDR game available. | I started on DDRMAX and was able to play 20 songs withing 2 hours of starting it. :/
Beginner mode might be begeinner-friendly, but it doesn't do anything. It burns a tiny bit more calories than standing up.
My recommendation would be StepMania. DDR's aimed at young people, but with StepMania, you get the songs you like and charts you can handle. The only problem there is that it might be harder to get them set up with StepMania, since you can't just go out and buy StepMania. Perhaps if there were a StepMania package assembled specifically for older generations? _________________
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10. Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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DancingTofu(SMC) wrote: | I started on DDRMAX and was able to play 20 songs withing 2 hours of starting it. :/ |
Are you in your 70's, or are you forgetting the gist of this topic? _________________
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11. Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Slowpoke wrote: | DancingTofu(SMC) wrote: | I started on DDRMAX and was able to play 20 songs withing 2 hours of starting it. :/ |
Are you in your 70's, or are you forgetting the gist of this topic? | Someone was saying DDRMax wasn't good for old people because it doesn't have begginner, and he pretty much said it's not that hard to get the hang of it. Good job. _________________
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12. Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: DDR for Older People? |
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curiousgeorge wrote: | I work for a physical therapist who mentioned that DDR might be helpful in rehabbing older patients, but he found that most of the music (techno/hiphop) wasn't right for his purposes.
My question is, is there other types of music available? Something softer that might appeal to older people, or even line dancing type stuff?
I'm not looking for illeagal downloads. Just wondering what other options there might be. |
curiousgeorge,
Which console do you have? |
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ChilliumBromide Trick Member


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13. Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:04 am Post subject: |
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A thought just occurred to me.
Why not just recommend they take up dancing or a martial art? I do all three (Aikido, DDR, and Dance), and of the three, DDR does the least for my body. Dancing is a far more rigorous excercise and Aikido is much more effective at getting my body moving right. In fact, I find that my scores fall dramatically if I don't go to Aikido for a while.
It seems that most of these older patients would opt for that over some video game any way, and the ones who opt for DDR are the ones who are more likely to be capable of getting into the DDR music. _________________
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14. Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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ZiTiM wrote: | Someone was saying DDRMax wasn't good for old people because it doesn't have begginner, and he pretty much said it's not that hard to get the hang of it. | What, are you agreeing with him?
For the purposes of this topic, unless you can remember WWII, it doesn't matter how quickly you got the hang of it. _________________
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15. Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Some DDR games have a few "oldies" on them. You'll have to look through lists of the songs available on each individual game to see what they contain, and even then many will need to be unlocked (which usually occurs through continual play. Play so many times, and a song unlocks, etc...). You can search on gamefaqs.com for unlock files for each of the games and you will need to purchase whatever device the unlock file is for, and use that to transfer the data to the PS2 memory card (which you'll also need to purchase at least one of those).
Of course there are games for other systems as well, but PS2 has the majority of DDR games.
They can play on Beginner or Light modes, most likely. _________________
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16. Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Slowpoke wrote: | ZiTiM wrote: | Someone was saying DDRMax wasn't good for old people because it doesn't have begginner, and he pretty much said it's not that hard to get the hang of it. | What, are you agreeing with him?
For the purposes of this topic, unless you can remember WWII, it doesn't matter how quickly you got the hang of it. | My grandparents started out with DDRMAX as well, I just played their copy. My grandpa stopped shortly after he started (he can't breathe right after 55 years of smoking), but not until after he made it through the lesson mode and a couple of songs on light. My grandma kept at it for a while (playing 1's and 2's, mostly on the workout mode), but when I replaced our beat-up softpad with a coupla shiny new metal pads, she stopped 'cause she was worried that she'd break them.
Also, I think there are a lot of people who don't remember much of WWII who would like to have a word with you. I'm pretty sure anyone who remembers Vietnam would count as an older player.
You cited a fraction of my total comment and attacked it in an attempt to flamebait. When someone tried to discuss it with you in sensible manner, you turned around and attacked him. Stop. Now. You're making an buttocks of yourself. _________________
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curiousgeorge Basic Member

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17. Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Thank you to Legendary N8 for the incredibly helpful link and to all of the other comments on possible difficulty level issues. I will pass all of the info on to my boss so he can take it into consideration.
To those who asked, my boss chose this game over others as a possible option because he thought that the patients being able to see their progress in terms of an objective score might provide incentive to work futher.
I'm not sure what type of console he might use though. |
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