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40. PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
SPF5.Kiba wrote:
Ever seen someone play heel-toe? That requires stamina?


Twitchy-foot stamina, maybe. I don't know, I only play flat-footed. I suppose I have a reasonable amount of stamina (could probably run a 5k in 21-24 minutes), but I'm not as nearly as efficient with my stamina as I could be. As a result, PSM and friends still elude me.
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41. PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Out of shape couch potatoes...play expert/heavy too.

I know a four hundred pound player who can pass BMR V - easily a 12 footer. Ever seen someone play heel-toe? That requires stamina?

Nobody is saying DDR does nothing, we are saying it does a relatively meaningless amount compared to serious excersice or even running. This is true.


What is serious exercise? Weight training? Lifting weights itself doesn't burn calories, the muscle you gain does. On the other hand, if you're cutting, you weight train to preserve the muscle you have supplemented by cardio (which DDR and moreso ITG is a good substitute for if you want it to be - this doesn't mean playing on your toes, but playing flat footed and actually moving around the pad is just fine provided you do all expert) to burn fat so the muscle you have is more visible.

I would actually say that if you're good enough, doing consistent sets of 10-12 footers is definitely better than just straight up jogging. The way many songs start slow (slow jog), speed up (full on sprint), and then slow down a bit (slow jog) is very similar to HIIT, which has been proven to be much more effective in terms of stamina gain/calorie burning/fat loss than just plain old jogging.

It's definitely somewhere inbetween jogging and HIIT. Definitely better than jogging, but definitely not as good as HIIT.
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42. PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Few ITG songs use that formula, and playing on your toes burns considerably more energy then playing flat-footed, which is why players use that technique. But this question was in response to DDR, which is much different. How does Let the Beat Hit Em increase your physical fitness by anything anyone would care about?

And what on earth is "HITT" and why does it have no article on Wikipedia or link from Google? One would think some revolutionary workout system would.
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43. PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
SPF5.Kiba wrote:
Few ITG songs use that formula, and playing on your toes burns considerably more energy then playing flat-footed, which is why players use that technique. But this question was in response to DDR, which is much different. How does Let the Beat Hit Em increase your physical fitness by anything anyone would care about?

And what on earth is "HITT" and why does it have no article on Wikipedia or link from Google? One would think some revolutionary workout system would.


I'm actually interested in what this "HITT" is as well. Sounds like the next tai-bo enduced workout. In all honesty, most of the people that I've met at the arcades played DDR just so they could lose weight.

I'd like to meet one person that became super physically fit playing DDR. I'm not saying that you can't, but the odds of somebody being able to surpass my level of physical fitness just playing DDR is laughable to non-existent.

Most people would bar rape like crazy before they actually ever tried to push their own physical abilites. The bar just undermines the whole "being physically fit to play DDR" saying.

Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.

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44. PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And what on earth is "HITT" and why does it have no article on Wikipedia or link from Google? One would think some revolutionary workout system would.


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45. PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ryu_Hirakashi wrote:
SPF5.Kiba wrote:
Few ITG songs use that formula, and playing on your toes burns considerably more energy then playing flat-footed, which is why players use that technique. But this question was in response to DDR, which is much different. How does Let the Beat Hit Em increase your physical fitness by anything anyone would care about?

And what on earth is "HITT" and why does it have no article on Wikipedia or link from Google? One would think some revolutionary workout system would.


I'm actually interested in what this "HITT" is as well. Sounds like the next tai-bo enduced workout. In all honesty, most of the people that I met at the arcades played DDR just so they could lose weight.

I'd like to meet one person that became super physically fit playing DDR. I'm not saying that you can't, but the odds of somebody being able to surpass my level of physical fitness just playing DDR is laughable to non-existent.

Most people would bar rape like crazy before they actually ever tried to push their own physical abilites. The bar just undermines the whole "being physically fit to play DDR" saying.

Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Hirakashi Ryu


Actually Most if not ALL ITG songs use that formula. Every song minus a select few (mainly 13's) have a break or a slowdown. They aren't all just a constant stream of arrows that never lets up E1.gif

Anyway onto HIIT. HIIT isn't a specific type of workout, it's just a different way to train.

http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiovascular_exercise

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* High-intensity interval training (HIIT)

Maximum-intensity intervals of constant length separated by recovery intervals of constant length or to a target recovery heart rate; this workout usually lasts 20 minutes not counting the warmup, the last recovery interval, or the cooldown; 20 minutes of HIIT and the excess post-exercise oxygen consumption (EPOC) that follows are shown to be more effective at weight reduction than 60 minutes of moderate-intensity endurance training


Let me give you the basic jist of it: You sttart out with a slow jog, then sprint until you tire, then jog, then sprint, then jog, then sprint... etc. It's much more effective than just plain endurance training. This type of training can be done with any form of cardio exercise, not just jogging. You could do it while cycling or whatever else E1.gif
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46. PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ryu, the only person I have heard of who is going to have matched a martial artists level of training is going to be Johnny (JSB), and there was a whole lot more then Legend Road involved in that case.

Thanks for the information, still have no idea why it's better then running.
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