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Opethian
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20.  Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Otomedius wrote: | | Someone check Model FT2 (Miracle Version) on Drums, cuz I heard that it got dropped from 99 to 98 in V4.......WTF?! |
it was a 99 because of how hard it was to get in V3
just like onihime isnt a 99 anymore
but when it was premium encore it was a 99
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| 21. Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Opethian wrote: | | Otomedius wrote: | | Someone check Model FT2 (Miracle Version) on Drums, cuz I heard that it got dropped from 99 to 98 in V4.......WTF?! |
it was a 99 because of how hard it was to get in V3
just like onihime isnt a 99 anymore
but when it was premium encore it was a 99 |
So in other words, it's only a 98 now cuz you can choose it from the songlist right from the beginning? How stupid.....That's like saying "Hey, let's make some of the boss songs on DDR a 9, but we'll rate them as 10's since they gotta play songs in order to get them! Then, when it's available on the songlist for everyone in the next game, we'll keep the original 9 rating!" |
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| 22. Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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This fooled me. I thought when it meant American release, it meant PS2.
Will it ever happen?
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| 23. Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone know how long its gonna be there? cause I'm home on fall break from the 12th to the 16th
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| 24. Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
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Baka of the Orochi
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| 25. Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| [KIMO] gtc wrote: | | Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
You take what you can get. Honestly man, regardless of what you think, it's still just a game. I know you said Drumscape is more of a real drumming sim than DM is but Drumscape isn't a game more than it is just a drum kit with a set of samples, which you can do with any electric drum kit.
It's like saying DDR is like real dancing or GF/GH is anywhere remotely close to playing guitar.
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Opethian
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| 26. Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Otomedius wrote: | | Opethian wrote: | | Otomedius wrote: | | Someone check Model FT2 (Miracle Version) on Drums, cuz I heard that it got dropped from 99 to 98 in V4.......WTF?! |
it was a 99 because of how hard it was to get in V3
just like onihime isnt a 99 anymore
but when it was premium encore it was a 99 |
So in other words, it's only a 98 now cuz you can choose it from the songlist right from the beginning? How stupid.....That's like saying "Hey, let's make some of the boss songs on DDR a 9, but we'll rate them as 10's since they gotta play songs in order to get them! Then, when it's available on the songlist for everyone in the next game, we'll keep the original 9 rating!" |
well DDR is totally different
in GF/DM they change ratings just about every mix
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| 27. Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| [KIMO] gtc wrote: | | Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
Drum Mania has an extra pad and better placement but Rock Band, when played on Expert, (even though some pads have to do double duty) is note for note with the actual song. |
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Baka of the Orochi
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| 28. Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| FTV wrote: | | [KIMO] gtc wrote: | | Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
Drum Mania has an extra pad and better placement but Rock Band, when played on Expert, (even though some pads have to do double duty) is note for note with the actual song. |
Now I'm starting to be really convinced that you either don't play drums and/or haven't played DrumMania ever.
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| 29. Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Baka of the Orochi wrote: | | FTV wrote: | | [KIMO] gtc wrote: | | Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
Drum Mania has an extra pad and better placement but Rock Band, when played on Expert, (even though some pads have to do double duty) is note for note with the actual song. |
Now I'm starting to be really convinced that you either don't play drums and/or haven't played DrumMania ever. |
its obvious he saw the Rock Band demo and saw how the drums are NOTE FOR NOTE
but failed to even bother to look at the catalog of about 7 years of videos of people playing DM
either that or he works for Harmonix and hates weeaboos
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| 30. Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| Opethian wrote: | | Baka of the Orochi wrote: | | FTV wrote: | | [KIMO] gtc wrote: | | Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
Drum Mania has an extra pad and better placement but Rock Band, when played on Expert, (even though some pads have to do double duty) is note for note with the actual song. |
Now I'm starting to be really convinced that you either don't play drums and/or haven't played DrumMania ever. |
its obvious he saw the Rock Band demo and saw how the drums are NOTE FOR NOTE
but failed to even bother to look at the catalog of about 7 years of videos of people playing DM
either that or he works for Harmonix and hates weeaboos |
Harmonix and game sites have confirmed that Rock Band's drum patterns on Expert are almost completely note for note with the original song. Honestly I wouldn't know just by looking. Does Konami check what the original song's music was when they write DM patterns? Were many DM songs recorded with... a drummer? |
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gtc
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| 31. Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Note for note is laughable. I will say they do the best they can though. As far as writing note patterns, I'd say for drum games it would be insanely easy. It's not like you have to coordinate an arbitrary step pattern. If there's a bass drum hit, put the note there. Snare, same. The tricky parts are cymbals (because on a real drumset you can never have enough cymbals, which is of course a lot more than the two DM pads allow), toms (again, 99% of kits have more than 2), and toys. I highly doubt any drum sim will have enough pads/triggers/etc to accommodate stuff like cowbell (lol), woodblock, a whole rack of toms, rototoms, gong, 50 cymbals, a duck, brakes, and whatever else a percussionist may utilize.
tl;dr version - Rock Band does a good job of making charts semi-accurate and fun (from what I've seen of the demo), but I still prefer DM. |
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| 32. Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the GF/DM vs. Rock Band debate, everyone. The few of us that are excited about this location test, the inevitable pictures/videos, and the future of Bemani in North America really appreciate it.
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| 33. Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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It appears Extra Rush Lv. 5 is now up. I can't read it, but I see x.5, so I'm assuming it's something to do w/ speed mods....But Masterpiece Silver & Gold had .5 mods....Huh. Anyways, said on the site.
Oh, & hope someone can get Revolution at the test location. |
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| 34. Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to try to be there once BZ opens, ready to rock out with my swank Rock Band promo sticks.
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| 35. Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Do I see 2 Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Guitar Hero, Para Para Paradise, & 2 beatmania US?
Anyways, try to get some footage.
Also, got an e-A card? |
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| 36. Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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lol it's actually 4x Jungle Beat sets, plus all that other stuff, and the GH2 box is just barely out of picture.
And yeah I got a card from the SN2 test, I'm all set :3
But sadly didn't make open, slept in and my ride was out shopping. |
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Baka of the Orochi
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| 37. Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| FTV wrote: | | Opethian wrote: | | Baka of the Orochi wrote: | | FTV wrote: | | [KIMO] gtc wrote: | | Hah, neither game is 100% real-life accurate with drums, but DrumMania is loads more so than Rock Band. |
Drum Mania has an extra pad and better placement but Rock Band, when played on Expert, (even though some pads have to do double duty) is note for note with the actual song. |
Now I'm starting to be really convinced that you either don't play drums and/or haven't played DrumMania ever. |
its obvious he saw the Rock Band demo and saw how the drums are NOTE FOR NOTE
but failed to even bother to look at the catalog of about 7 years of videos of people playing DM
either that or he works for Harmonix and hates weeaboos |
Harmonix and game sites have confirmed that Rock Band's drum patterns on Expert are almost completely note for note with the original song. Honestly I wouldn't know just by looking. Does Konami check what the original song's music was when they write DM patterns? Were many DM songs recorded with... a drummer? |
So this gaming company is claiming their fighting game is just like real fighting, incorporating actual fighting styles into their games so it's just like real life.
And you're going to believe them?
Seriously dude, just go on sucking off Harmonix's rooster in another topic if all you have to say is (apparently) how inaccurate DM is compared to the almighty Rock Band. You seem to be no better than all the other GH shmucks that think it's the best thing since cows were invented.
GTC: That's the point. It's a damn game, not actual honest-to-God drumming. "Actual" drumming is subjective anyway.
Play whatever floats your boat, but don't knock it until you've tried it (or at least learn to respect other's opinions instead of trying to force them to think otherwise).
Otomedius: Revolution (by TERRA) is already unlocked by default, same with Murmur Twins guitar pop (crazy fun on GF) and, Taiyo (ugly EXT DM chart IMO).
So far V4 is cool, the timing seems even stranger to me than V3, but I probably just need to adjust to it (felt the same as AC V when I first played that).
Grand Prix mode is all right, I don't really understand it though. Rookie course is a tremendous waste of time unless you've never played DM before.
Still not sure how Extra Rush works though.
The Weckl EX stage is weird as hell (typical), Kozo Nakamura one is pretty cool but looooong. Haven't tried the Asaki song yet.
And yes, the e-amuse card you used for SN2 also works in GFdm (use the same PIN too). You need to register a name though and character icon, but region seems to already be set.
You get some interesting new ranking names too, especially for FC'ing songs, passing certain levels and stuff too, neat.
New menu system is kinda cool. When you hit bass drum twice or green-green during song select, it pulls up the play style menu instead of just simply increasing speed.
Menu timer also seems to be extended/slowed down from V1-3 (THANK GOD).
Of course, the game is riddled with Engrish.
I suggest bringing your own sticks. The one at BZN is kinda heavy and the tips keep popping off.
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| 38. Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Sounds great so far. Has anyone been taking videos or pictures yet? They were being posted awfully fast when SuperNOVA 2 was doing its test, but then again SN2 wasn't even released in Japan yet during that test.
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| 39. Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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did anyone get Prime Light?
i havent seen how the chart is yet
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