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Tyrgannus Trick Member

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20. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| The Commodore (A!) wrote: | | Though I have playing little PIU and no ITG at all, from watching many videos and hearing a lot from people who do play the other games, I'm going to say ITG. The addition of mines, 11+ footers and more put ITG miles ahead of DDR in difficulty. |
The competition isn't between anything and DDR, but between ITG and PIU. DDR is impressively easy compared to the other 2.
Stepchartwise, there is no competition in difficulty. PIU wins. However, there are two very distinct difficulties in dancing games: Passing and scoring.
I still hold, due to PIU's large time windows, that ITG is the hardest dancing game to score, while PIU is the hardest to pass.
DDR is just the hardest game to get away from.......because it's everywhere. _________________
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21. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Alright then.
Since I have little experience with either, I can't truely compare them head to head. The few times I haved played PIU, I have either picked difficult songs without realizing it or played on a machine with awful pads. _________________
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Razma Vivid Member

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22. Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Tyrgannus wrote: | | I still hold, due to PIU's large time windows, that ITG is the hardest dancing game to score, while PIU is the hardest to pass. |
You must not know how Pump scores. If you hit a step in ITG, it will give you some kind of percentage no matter which step you hit. It will always be the same. PIU scoring is based upon combo and most consecutive notes hit. Getting a huge score is much more difficult because a miss in the middle of the song could determine a good 1/4 of the songs total points being lost. Missing an arrow in ITG would only kill the percentage by that one and only arrow.
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24. Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Which dance game do you think is the hardest? |
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| videoCWK wrote: | | Barbaloot wrote: | | Yeah, especially Mario Mix. I hear some of those songs are as hard as 6 footers! How can anyone ever manage that? |
omg noo wai 6 footers tahts leik imposabel! nooen can do 6 footers without using teh bar and speedmodz and solo and thats all cheating |
ya and mario mix downsn't hav speedmods or solo it's forced 1x nosolo
and bownsers castle is like as hard as na hard 8 or EZ 9 howcan anyone do taht its nto postible |
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25. Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Which dance game do you think is the hardest? |
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| The Wise Fool wrote: | | videoCWK wrote: | | Barbaloot wrote: | | Yeah, especially Mario Mix. I hear some of those songs are as hard as 6 footers! How can anyone ever manage that? |
omg noo wai 6 footers tahts leik imposabel! nooen can do 6 footers without using teh bar and speedmodz and solo and thats all cheating |
ya and mario mix downsn't hav speedmods or solo it's forced 1x nosolo
and bownsers castle is like as hard as na hard 8 or EZ 9 howcan anyone do taht its nto postible |
oooooomg nooo waaiiiii taht cant be troo tahts so unfare nooen can pass tohse not even 6 feeters i mean all tohse videos of tohes peopl doign 6 feeters aer faek but sersoily 8 and 9 footies is not fare at awl |
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26. Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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1. Posting stupid dance game spinoffs as the hardest dance game is about as funny as saying BUTTERFLY MAX SURVIVOR UNLIMITED SAKURA BAG SAKURA BAG ZELDA PARANOIA 180.(Period)
2. PIU>ITG>>DDR
3. This thread fucking fails. It's only going to turn into a PIU NO ITG debate that will last forever.
4. ROFL ohshititztony (whatever name?) was banned.
5. Seriously...if PIU was a 4 arrow game, how much different do you think the charts would be (well raw wouldn't spell anything >_>). They would be quite different, but still rather difficult. _________________
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27. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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ddr out if the question but what i think about this whole passing and scoring issue...
we dont necesarily know if a 12 circle and a 12 bar song are of equal difficulty especially cuz its a different game. therefore i belive we cant assume that someone playing a 12 footer who will get about 98% or so and then someone of equal skill played a 12 circle and got an A wouldnt that meen its harder to score because the songs are harder n such
like i know the timing window is easier but these songs are plain harder than ITG's 13's
w/e i confused myself someone hlp me out _________________
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28. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| Milk Chan wrote: | | 4. ROFL ohshititztony (whatever name?) was banned. |
Haha, you're right. I guess that explains why he stopped posting. _________________
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29. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Pump. I hate it with a passion. I personally think DDR is the easiest of them all (most fun too). ITG and pump are more of a challenge, although i like ITG way more than pump. |
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30. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Techno Motion =D |
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31. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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itg becomes easier as you get more stamina and know the beats of the songs, but most people i know say pump it up is hard because they started with ddr.
ITG wins as far as speed, PIU wins as far as difficult stepcharts, and ddr remains fun because you dont die after playing 1 song (pandemonium makes my chest explode!)  _________________
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32. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Milk Chan wrote: | | stupid dance game spinoffs. |
You mean like itg? |
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Razma Vivid Member

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33. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ddrmaniacaaa wrote: | | ITG wins as far as speed |
Wait... what? Pandy/Summer/VerTex^2 have NOTHING on Dignity NM, LIADZ2 NM, Moonlight NM, Witch Doctor ANM, etc.
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Tyrgannus Trick Member

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34. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Determinator comes fairly close though, but yeah, PIU is harder. _________________
| AA Bob wrote: | | Summer is as much of a 12 as PSMO is a 9. |
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35. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Are some sections of the violin 1/24ths? Because if they are then that's easily the fastest that actually requires motion (so drills are irrelevant). _________________
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36. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Evil_pied wrote: | | Milk Chan wrote: | | stupid dance game spinoffs. |
You mean like itg? |
I was getting at no-name ones and you know it. Stuff like Plug-in and play dance games, Mad Catz, Brittney's Dance beat, etc. _________________
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37. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Liquid Zero wrote: | | Techno Motion =D |
Okay! Meeting Ajurned!
Seriously people who don't know wtf they're talking about when it comes to PIU don't just say that that means ITG is harder. and when people find out there's a middle button there all like ZOMG /-/AAAAAAAAArd but it's not... I played PIU for a year until I first played DDR and I can do everything in DDR well, pass most 12s in ITG, but I still can't even do half of the the crap in PIU. It's hardest, it's always been hardest, and it always will be hardest because it's not about scores (usually if you pass a song you'll get at least an A, especially on X2, it's kinda hard not to.), it's about the good old days (like when you were on Standard or couldn't pass 10s) where the satisfaction is in simply surviving to the end of the song. That's what it's designed for. And FYI rolls are retarted, not hard. _________________
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38. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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ITG for the win!! _________________
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39. Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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The 4, 5, and 10 panel modes on TechnoMotion are very easy compared to DDR/ITG or Pump. 8 panel was disorienting, but the patterns were really pretty easy. If you think TechnoMotion is the hardest, it's because you haven't played it enough.
Because most Pump players play with stage break off, passing is a toss up between Pump and ITG. Pump's charts are without a doubt the most difficult, and many of them test a person's physical limits, so in this department there should be a consensus. VerTex^2 Double Expert is entering killer territory though. No one seriously plays Pump for accuracy, so the comparison should be between ITG and DDR only. DDR is fairly difficult to score on if you take into account the marvelous window, which is so tight that perfects can be caused by pad error. You have to take into account the fact that so many DDR song are very offsync and some even drift as well. ITG has more technical patterns that make accuracy more difficult however, and because Marvelouses are only on in courses, I'll have to go with ITG here.
Finally, stop comparing Pump double with ITG single. Of course Pump is still harder, but the comparison is pointless. |
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