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mistercow_pnoy
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80.  Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| annon never wrote: | | I bet you think Xenon is hard, too. |
I actually find xenon a bitch to PA. |
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| 81. Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| mistercow_pnoy wrote: | | annon never wrote: | | I bet you think Xenon is hard, too. |
I actually find xenon a bitch to PA. |
In that case, you're probably just not that good with relatively complex rhythms. All of Xenon's notes are right where they should be.
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mistercow_pnoy
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| 82. Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| annon never wrote: | | In that case, you're probably just not that good with relatively complex rhythms. All of Xenon's notes are right where they should be. |
Probably true, but sometimes it seems offbeat to me. |
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| 83. Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| the A team wrote: | | Step count does not matter look at july it has lik 803 steps and its only an 11. |
As I said, it's a small factor. They probably thought about that, but also considered other things before grouping it Vertex and HotN.
| mistercow_pnoy wrote: |
I actually find xenon a bitch to PA. |
If you have Ultramix 2 or Stepmania, play Fly Through the Night, which is sort of a predecessor to Xenon. It has some weird rhythms, but it's relatively easy.
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chaos303
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| 84. Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Alright,
Xepher = middle 10 (So Deep style)
Sakura = 8 (Hell, Across the Nightmare Challenge is harder that this!)
Bag = 10 (at 1x of course)
Paranoia = 6 (Mkay, theres no way in hell that this is still a 8)
Drop the Bomb = 7 (Have you ever seen a 6 footer with multiple crossovers, irregular steps, a 16th stream, and step jumps?)
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| 85. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| chaos303 wrote: |
Drop the Bomb = 7 (Have you ever seen a 6 footer with multiple crossovers, irregular steps, a 16th stream, and step jumps?) |
They're not 16th notes. They're 8th note triplets. Or, in DDR terms, "12th" notes.
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RBCF retunes
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| 87. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| chaos303 wrote: |
Sakura = 8 (Hell, Across the Nightmare Challenge is harder that this!) |
WTF? It should at least be a 9. It seems quite a bit harder than Tsugaru (Apple Mix).
| chaos303 wrote: | | Paranoia = 6 (Mkay, theres no way in hell that this is still a 8) |
Again, WTF? Crossovers and jacks at 180 BPM don't constitute an 8?
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| 88. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| RBCF retunes wrote: | | chaos303 wrote: |
Sakura = 8 (Hell, Across the Nightmare Challenge is harder that this!) |
WTF? It should at least be a 9. It seems quite a bit harder than Tsugaru (Apple Mix).
| chaos303 wrote: | | Paranoia = 6 (Mkay, theres no way in hell that this is still a 8) |
Again, WTF? Crossovers and jacks at 180 BPM don't constitute an 8? |
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Sakura = 9
Paranoia = 7 (still not an 8 though, most of the crossovers come at you one at a time. ex. da-da-da da-da-da da-da-da and the jackhammers are pretty simple. I also just cant see this being as hard as some other 8 footers like Seduction and Heaven is a 57' Metalic gray)
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| 89. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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There are some 8's that are much slower and have few crossovers (Groove, for example). Paranoia is definitely a mid to high 8.
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Liquid Zero
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| 90. Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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*reads title*
Xepher is obviously fake and we all know it.
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mistercow_pnoy
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| 91. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Liquid Zero wrote: | | Xepher is obviously fake and we all know it. |
Xepher Challenge is quite definitely a 10. |
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Liquid Zero
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| 92. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think so too. I was actually poking fun at the thread title's vagueness, as is looks more like it's asking whether or not the song itself was real, rather than a stepchart's credibility.
Though I understand sarcasm can come unnoticed. =/
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| 93. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mistercow_pnoy wrote: |
Probably true, but sometimes it seems offbeat to me. |
Some of the arrows are 'offbeat'. That is the point, they go with the syncopated music perfectly.
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| 94. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| forbiddanlight wrote: | | DancingTofu wrote: |
Also, HVAM has 503 steps, but I wouldn't rate it a 10 at all, so the idea that 500+ steps = 10 is a pretty ineffective way to judge songs.
I'd say anything with over 650 steps is definitely a 10, and anything over 550 is likely to be a 10. Stuff over 450 is in candidacy, and anything under 450 is unlikely to be deserving of a 10.
There's my view of the issue. I didn't read the topic much, so any or all of those bases could have been covered previously for all I know. |
Ah Ah, don't forget long mixes  . I say that you can't really judge 10s by amount of steps. Give a short enough song and a screwed up enough rhythm, a good stepartist could make a 10 in 250 steps. Heck, with a really irregular rhythm, you don't need that short a song, I wouldn't think. |
That was my entire point. A comment had been made that 'it has 530 steps, it's a 10', and that's what I was responding to.
[quote=annon never]They're not 16th notes. They're 8th note triplets. Or, in DDR terms, "12th" notes.[/quote]On Drop the Bomb? I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any 12th's (quaver triplets if you want to be musically accurate), but then again I haven't played that song much. I know the remix does have a 16th note beat smattered at the end, but it's still an easy-as-hell 7. Regardless, Drop the Bomb is an easy 6. The remix is a mid-6 as far as I'm concerned.
I'm surprised nobody's brought up The Shining Polaris yet. I cleared it on Heavy before I cleared Max 300 on Light. I also AAA'ed it on light and standard before I cleared Max 300 on Standard. I think it stole some numbers from Outer Limits (IIDX) if you ask me. That songs rated about 2 points short of what it should be at every difficulty. Shining Polaris is 3/6/7, right? It should be 2/4/5.
EDIT: Xepher is a MIDI song. MIDI = synthesised = synthetic = fake. THREAD SOLVED.
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mistercow_pnoy
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| 95. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Pop'n Usagi! wrote: | | Some of the arrows are 'offbeat'. That is the point, they go with the syncopated music perfectly. |
I see. I'm not a very big fan of the song anyways. |
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Liquid Zero
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| 96. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| chaos303 wrote: | Alright,
Sakura = 8 (Hell, Across the Nightmare Challenge is harder that this!)
Paranoia = 6 (Mkay, theres no way in hell that this is still a 8)
Drop the Bomb = 7 (Have you ever seen a 6 footer with multiple crossovers, irregular steps, a 16th stream, and step jumps?) |
Sakura is easy for a 10, yes, but it's ridiculous to say it should be an 8. There's no way the 2nd half of the song can justify an 8 rating if HVAM is a 9.
Same goes with your PARANOiA idea. Too many notes going on at a constant pace to make it seem so easy that it should be a 6.
I'll agree with Drop the Bomb, though. That song is pretty intense for a 6.
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mistercow_pnoy
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| 97. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Liquid Zero wrote: | | Sakura is easy for a 10, yes, but it's ridiculous to say it should be an 8. |
Agreed. The BPM changes are crazy and I still get them messed up sometimes. That's why it's a ten.
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| 98. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| DancingTofu wrote: | | On Drop the Bomb? I'm pretty sure that doesn't have any 12th's (quaver triplets if you want to be musically accurate), but then again I haven't played that song much. |
The very end has a small stream of 12ths. It goes with the music.
BTW, nobody calls them quaver triplets in America. 
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| 99. Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| RevenG Survivor Max wrote: |
Agreed. The BPM changes are crazy and I still get them messed up sometimes. That's why it's a ten. |
The BPM changes aren't that difficult. If Akumajo Dracula Medley is an 8, Sakura is a 9.
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