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Which dance game do you think is the hardest?
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40. PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DDR is fairly difficult to score on if you take into account the marvelous window, which is so tight that perfects can be caused by the usually offset perfect window.

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41. PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To settle fastest: Will O the Wisp nightmare has a 32nd-note burst at 210 bpm. If you need other examples: She Likes Pizza (drills at 230 bpm), Witch Doctor (gigantic drill at 195 bpm), Extravaganza (huge run at 195 bpm), Final Audition 3 (32nd bursts at 130 bpm), Dignity (crossover runs at 195 bpm) all blow away even Determinator and Euphoria in terms of speed. I don't think you can argue that.

Here's my honest opinion as far as difficulty goes: Pump has wayyy harder songs, but they're easy to pass with stage break off. As soon as stage break is on, it's a COMPLETELY different story. It's like comparing ITG to DDR.

And now it's vid time:
Witch Doctor [a] NM
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42. PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a guy who considers himself a pretty good DDR player, and one of the better ones where I come from, that video scares the utter crap out of me.

Attempting that looks much akin to throwing yourself in front of a truck.

I'm going with PIU as hardest.
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43. PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To settle fastest: Will O the Wisp nightmare has a 32nd-note burst at 210 bpm. If you need other examples: She Likes Pizza (drills at 230 bpm), Witch Doctor (gigantic drill at 195 bpm), Extravaganza (huge run at 195 bpm), Final Audition 3 (32nd bursts at 130 bpm), Dignity (crossover runs at 195 bpm) all blow away even Determinator and Euphoria in terms of speed. I don't think you can argue that.


NOTE: I agree that PIU is the hardest. This is just simple number crunching.

-Will O he Wisp is just insane fast. Uncomparable to ITG
- If the drills in She Likes Pizza are 16ths, then it is barely faster than Anubis.
-Witch Doctor is unbelievably HARDER than Disconnected -Hyper-, but no faster
-Same with Extravanganza
-Euphoria would same faster than Final Audition 3, because it is 32nd bursts at 140.
-Dignity is just plain slower than Determinator's runs, or did you not do the number crunching.

Yes, PIU is the hardest, but the point of that was just to say please crunch numbers before saying speed is uncomparable.
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44. PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't just about number crunching. Its also about the complexity of the step patterns. Dignity, with all its turning, M runs, and 3 panel freezes, is plenty harder than Determinator.

Speed isn't everything. Because, by that logic, Highs Off U would be harder than Bag (in the realm of DDR).
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45. PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with Dignity being slower than Determinator, considering you need to do 16th bursts into triples. The rest... yeah, I was pretty tired.
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46. PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Determinator is WAAAAY harder than Dignity guys!

However, I have to say Steppin 3 Superior is the hardest of em all :-P
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47. PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PIU FTW...probably because I just haven't played it enough, but it is one of the only dancing games I just can't seem to get the hang of.
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48. PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would have to say ITG
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49. PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe without a doubt that if Techno Motion went further in its development, it would easily become the hardest Dancing Sim. lol.

Anywho, with the 3 games out there now, I'd say PIU is the hardest, and ITG comes in second, leaving DDR in last place. But for the fun factor, I'd definately switch that order up.
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50. PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i think Pump It Up is hard....lol......i am just to use to DDR you know????, but that doesnt stop me from trying E4.gif
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51. PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Which dance game do you think is the hardest? Reply with quote

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Yeah, especially Mario Mix. I hear some of those songs are as hard as 6 footers! How can anyone ever manage that?


You shouldn't be making fun of an excellent game.
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52. PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITG is definetly the hardest, although piu is kinda hard because of the middle spot GRRRR MIDDLE SPOT!!!...so yeah itg
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53. PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm Im gonna have to say Lumines and Brittanys Spears Dance Beat.
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54. PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Which dance game do you think is the hardest? Reply with quote

Cluny wrote:
Barbaloot wrote:
Yeah, especially Mario Mix. I hear some of those songs are as hard as 6 footers! How can anyone ever manage that?


You shouldn't be making fun of an excellent game.


Yeah, but ITG's easy songs put Mario mix's hardest songs to shame
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55. PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stepmaniai s the hardest, as some of the songs on there are not humanly possible by any person (looks at MAX Forever Oni)
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Stepmaniai s the hardest, as some of the songs on there are not humanly possible by any person (looks at MAX Forever Oni)


I can pass max forever oni with lifebar and judge on 1 with a D, but I doubt anyone could do it on a pad
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57. PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddrmaniacaaa wrote:
Mexistache wrote:
Stepmaniai s the hardest, as some of the songs on there are not humanly possible by any person (looks at MAX Forever Oni)


I can pass max forever oni with lifebar and judge on 1 with a D, but I doubt anyone could do it on a pad


keyboard doesnt count. no one cares if you AAAA PSMO on fingers, but pad....people do



Judge only on 1? wow
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58. PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And now it's vid time:
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Does anyone else listen to this song and think "Dead End"? To me, it starts off sounding a lot like that.

But yeah, that is pretty crazy. What was with that freeze at the end that racked up his step combo? Rolls?
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59. PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me think more of the Lawn Wake songs.
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